Just for anyone who sees your comment but doesn't get what you mean: AMD's revenue is 44% hardware related. They're an ai company. They own multitudes of small scale slop farms

Edit: gross exaggeration

Except the money elsewhere isn't even real.

This is a comparison I made for myself a few months ago, in Romania.

As you can see the B580 is fairly competitive considering the price.

I looked on the site pcgarage.ro exclusively, though you can usually get better deals on smaller eshops that take more time to deliver. (If you want to check for yourself use the filters not the search. The search on their site is crap.)

Also, considering the intent of both AMD and NVIDIA is to release puny GPU's with 4 and 8 GB of VRAM, intel is very relevant here.

If the price of those dogshit GPU's comes up to anything close to 1600 RON as the B580 is, the B580 will outperform them in probably every conceivable way, bar reputation.

Also, older gen cards exist. Intel can beat those sometimes. I know people that were looking to buy second hand in my area but ended up buying a new Arc card. They're decent options if the budget is tight and you get something that you know hasn't been abused in some way (I'm looking at you smokers and vapers haha)

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Competitive with what?

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

At price point it's beating everything with RX 9060 XT 8GB being close.

No. Chinese GPUs have been complete disasters for gaming. Instead of the claimed 4060 competitor, the one you are referring to (which is the most powerful) struggles to compete with a 660 Ti from 2012.

https://www.howtogeek.com/are-chinese-gpus-coming-to-eat-nvidias-lunch/

They might be more useful for AI, but as of right now, they are extremely far behind in the GPU space, far more so than in most other areas.

I've heard of CXMT RAM and it appears to be solid in the few tests that exist, but by 'viable' I meant commercially viable. Even with current RAM prices (where their stuff is barely any cheaper than reputable brands), I don't know how much they rely on subsidies from the Chinese state. Production capacity appears to be limited, with one issue being relatively low yields, just 80% for DDR5. They are also using an outdated 17 nm process, which means it's running a few degrees hotter than the competition (and you need more or bulkier chips for the same capacity) - make sure your system airflow is up to snuff. This is what I meant by playing catch up with moving targets.

Granted, you don't need the latest node for every computer, especially in the consumer space, but personally, I wouldn't risk running RAM from an unproven vendor (same with storage). I've had issues with faulty RAM in the past, which, among other things, resulted in data being invisibly corrupted over the course of months, so I tend to err on the side of caution. If their stuff turns out fine over the course of the next four or five years or so, I might probably change my tune - or be simply forced to buy from them, if for example the memory shortage continues.