▲ 621 ▼ Weird and F'd Up (piefed-media.feddit.online) submitted 16 hours ago by RockBottom@feddit.org to c/leopardsatemyface@lemmy.world 40 comments fedilink hide all child comments Crossposted from https://lemmy.world/post/48595579 cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/62340497 🤔 Interesting cross-posted from: https://feddit.online/c/mildlyinfuriating/p/1784290/interesting
[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world [S] 58 points 15 hours ago (2 children) Good post but wrong comm permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io [S] 0 points 14 hours ago (2 children) Might apply to places like Stack Overflow specifically, where the hostility of human interaction made people quite eager to leap to AI instead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip [S] 7 points 13 hours ago (5 children) Was SO really all that hostile? I didn’t think so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social [S] 6 points 11 hours ago It has its ups and downs and back when I added a shit ton of responses I always tried to keep being friendly and helpful. But even back then there were dicks on the platform, and not too little of them. At some point, it shifted and the dicks started to overwhelm everything. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world [S] 5 points 7 hours ago Yes it was, I couldn't post a question that didn't get downvoted and/or ridiculed for how stupid I was for asking the question in the first place. Then I was always told my question isn't broad enough to even bother asking, so I might as well not ask. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sabata11792@ani.social [S] 5 points 7 hours ago* I got told to kill myself and quit programming for asking a beginner question as a kid. Didn't even get my question answered. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BartyDeCanter@piefed.social [S] 1 point 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 child) When I first used it, it wasn’t so bad. Yeah, some people were egotistical about things but I could usually get a reasonable answer, and when I answered something before anyone else I would get an upvote or two. Later, every time I asked a question (that I had spent a day or two researching and searching for an answer), within a few minutes my question would be marked as duplicate by someone with a jillion points, and the question that was pointed to as the dupe would have literally nothing to do with my question at all. Like, I would ask a question about clang internals and get duped as a question about the Windows networking stack. And when I answered a question, with a complete well reasoned response with an example, it would get downvoted into oblivion while a poor answer from someone else with those jillion points would get a hundred upvotes. EDIT: And I know AI bad, but I can ask Claude the exact same question and get an answer with the exact file, line references and a decent explanation in a minute or two. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone [S] 2 points 2 hours ago Neck beards ruining the Internet is a tale as old as time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mobyduck648@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 6 hours ago It was more that the owners had a very different idea of the site to what most people wanted to use it for, they wanted to create something akin to Wikipedia of code while most people wanted their programming questions answered. I definitely think a lot of the community had an attitude problem, but the wider problem is more that the users and owners were talking about totally different sites for the most part. I don’t think their ideal was ever realistic to be honest, the main problem I had with SO was less the reflexive rudeness and power-tripping and more that the community seemed a bit delusional about the basic passage of time and the evolution of industry practice. You’d often see a comically obsolete answer as the canonically accepted one, and if you had a question about something even tangentially related to that canonical answer some smarmy little goblin would come along to close it as a duplicate. It wasn’t very good at what it purported to be, much less what most users thought it was for. permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip [S] 2 points 9 hours ago* I never ever had to interact on SO and similar sites, I use them solely for searching for solutions, and for that they're perfect - and probably provide a significant amount of data for answering questions on ChatGPT etc. It's not like the internet didn't work as an answering machine before AI. Often you can enter the exact same prompt into a search engine instead and get better answers. But oh no, you have to click on a website and maybe even scroll down a little! permalink fedilink source parent [+] RockBottom@feddit.org [S] -7 points 14 hours ago Yeah, netizens will never get their part of this development. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io [S] 0 points 14 hours ago (2 children) Might apply to places like Stack Overflow specifically, where the hostility of human interaction made people quite eager to leap to AI instead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip [S] 7 points 13 hours ago (5 children) Was SO really all that hostile? I didn’t think so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social [S] 6 points 11 hours ago It has its ups and downs and back when I added a shit ton of responses I always tried to keep being friendly and helpful. But even back then there were dicks on the platform, and not too little of them. At some point, it shifted and the dicks started to overwhelm everything. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world [S] 5 points 7 hours ago Yes it was, I couldn't post a question that didn't get downvoted and/or ridiculed for how stupid I was for asking the question in the first place. Then I was always told my question isn't broad enough to even bother asking, so I might as well not ask. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sabata11792@ani.social [S] 5 points 7 hours ago* I got told to kill myself and quit programming for asking a beginner question as a kid. Didn't even get my question answered. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BartyDeCanter@piefed.social [S] 1 point 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 child) When I first used it, it wasn’t so bad. Yeah, some people were egotistical about things but I could usually get a reasonable answer, and when I answered something before anyone else I would get an upvote or two. Later, every time I asked a question (that I had spent a day or two researching and searching for an answer), within a few minutes my question would be marked as duplicate by someone with a jillion points, and the question that was pointed to as the dupe would have literally nothing to do with my question at all. Like, I would ask a question about clang internals and get duped as a question about the Windows networking stack. And when I answered a question, with a complete well reasoned response with an example, it would get downvoted into oblivion while a poor answer from someone else with those jillion points would get a hundred upvotes. EDIT: And I know AI bad, but I can ask Claude the exact same question and get an answer with the exact file, line references and a decent explanation in a minute or two. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone [S] 2 points 2 hours ago Neck beards ruining the Internet is a tale as old as time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mobyduck648@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 6 hours ago It was more that the owners had a very different idea of the site to what most people wanted to use it for, they wanted to create something akin to Wikipedia of code while most people wanted their programming questions answered. I definitely think a lot of the community had an attitude problem, but the wider problem is more that the users and owners were talking about totally different sites for the most part. I don’t think their ideal was ever realistic to be honest, the main problem I had with SO was less the reflexive rudeness and power-tripping and more that the community seemed a bit delusional about the basic passage of time and the evolution of industry practice. You’d often see a comically obsolete answer as the canonically accepted one, and if you had a question about something even tangentially related to that canonical answer some smarmy little goblin would come along to close it as a duplicate. It wasn’t very good at what it purported to be, much less what most users thought it was for. permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip [S] 2 points 9 hours ago* I never ever had to interact on SO and similar sites, I use them solely for searching for solutions, and for that they're perfect - and probably provide a significant amount of data for answering questions on ChatGPT etc. It's not like the internet didn't work as an answering machine before AI. Often you can enter the exact same prompt into a search engine instead and get better answers. But oh no, you have to click on a website and maybe even scroll down a little! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip [S] 7 points 13 hours ago (5 children) Was SO really all that hostile? I didn’t think so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social [S] 6 points 11 hours ago It has its ups and downs and back when I added a shit ton of responses I always tried to keep being friendly and helpful. But even back then there were dicks on the platform, and not too little of them. At some point, it shifted and the dicks started to overwhelm everything. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world [S] 5 points 7 hours ago Yes it was, I couldn't post a question that didn't get downvoted and/or ridiculed for how stupid I was for asking the question in the first place. Then I was always told my question isn't broad enough to even bother asking, so I might as well not ask. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sabata11792@ani.social [S] 5 points 7 hours ago* I got told to kill myself and quit programming for asking a beginner question as a kid. Didn't even get my question answered. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BartyDeCanter@piefed.social [S] 1 point 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 child) When I first used it, it wasn’t so bad. Yeah, some people were egotistical about things but I could usually get a reasonable answer, and when I answered something before anyone else I would get an upvote or two. Later, every time I asked a question (that I had spent a day or two researching and searching for an answer), within a few minutes my question would be marked as duplicate by someone with a jillion points, and the question that was pointed to as the dupe would have literally nothing to do with my question at all. Like, I would ask a question about clang internals and get duped as a question about the Windows networking stack. And when I answered a question, with a complete well reasoned response with an example, it would get downvoted into oblivion while a poor answer from someone else with those jillion points would get a hundred upvotes. EDIT: And I know AI bad, but I can ask Claude the exact same question and get an answer with the exact file, line references and a decent explanation in a minute or two. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone [S] 2 points 2 hours ago Neck beards ruining the Internet is a tale as old as time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mobyduck648@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 6 hours ago It was more that the owners had a very different idea of the site to what most people wanted to use it for, they wanted to create something akin to Wikipedia of code while most people wanted their programming questions answered. I definitely think a lot of the community had an attitude problem, but the wider problem is more that the users and owners were talking about totally different sites for the most part. I don’t think their ideal was ever realistic to be honest, the main problem I had with SO was less the reflexive rudeness and power-tripping and more that the community seemed a bit delusional about the basic passage of time and the evolution of industry practice. You’d often see a comically obsolete answer as the canonically accepted one, and if you had a question about something even tangentially related to that canonical answer some smarmy little goblin would come along to close it as a duplicate. It wasn’t very good at what it purported to be, much less what most users thought it was for. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social [S] 6 points 11 hours ago It has its ups and downs and back when I added a shit ton of responses I always tried to keep being friendly and helpful. But even back then there were dicks on the platform, and not too little of them. At some point, it shifted and the dicks started to overwhelm everything. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world [S] 5 points 7 hours ago Yes it was, I couldn't post a question that didn't get downvoted and/or ridiculed for how stupid I was for asking the question in the first place. Then I was always told my question isn't broad enough to even bother asking, so I might as well not ask. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sabata11792@ani.social [S] 5 points 7 hours ago* I got told to kill myself and quit programming for asking a beginner question as a kid. Didn't even get my question answered. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BartyDeCanter@piefed.social [S] 1 point 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 child) When I first used it, it wasn’t so bad. Yeah, some people were egotistical about things but I could usually get a reasonable answer, and when I answered something before anyone else I would get an upvote or two. Later, every time I asked a question (that I had spent a day or two researching and searching for an answer), within a few minutes my question would be marked as duplicate by someone with a jillion points, and the question that was pointed to as the dupe would have literally nothing to do with my question at all. Like, I would ask a question about clang internals and get duped as a question about the Windows networking stack. And when I answered a question, with a complete well reasoned response with an example, it would get downvoted into oblivion while a poor answer from someone else with those jillion points would get a hundred upvotes. EDIT: And I know AI bad, but I can ask Claude the exact same question and get an answer with the exact file, line references and a decent explanation in a minute or two. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone [S] 2 points 2 hours ago Neck beards ruining the Internet is a tale as old as time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone [S] 2 points 2 hours ago Neck beards ruining the Internet is a tale as old as time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mobyduck648@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 6 hours ago It was more that the owners had a very different idea of the site to what most people wanted to use it for, they wanted to create something akin to Wikipedia of code while most people wanted their programming questions answered. I definitely think a lot of the community had an attitude problem, but the wider problem is more that the users and owners were talking about totally different sites for the most part. I don’t think their ideal was ever realistic to be honest, the main problem I had with SO was less the reflexive rudeness and power-tripping and more that the community seemed a bit delusional about the basic passage of time and the evolution of industry practice. You’d often see a comically obsolete answer as the canonically accepted one, and if you had a question about something even tangentially related to that canonical answer some smarmy little goblin would come along to close it as a duplicate. It wasn’t very good at what it purported to be, much less what most users thought it was for. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip [S] 2 points 9 hours ago* I never ever had to interact on SO and similar sites, I use them solely for searching for solutions, and for that they're perfect - and probably provide a significant amount of data for answering questions on ChatGPT etc. It's not like the internet didn't work as an answering machine before AI. Often you can enter the exact same prompt into a search engine instead and get better answers. But oh no, you have to click on a website and maybe even scroll down a little! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] RockBottom@feddit.org [S] -7 points 14 hours ago Yeah, netizens will never get their part of this development. permalink fedilink source parent